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If you get stopped for carrying a gun in a fed park tell em I said it was OK.

Did someone say they carry handcuffs off duty? I think thats more borderline than carrying a gun off duty. If I need to reveal my gun off duty I wont be giving anyone the opportunity to be handcuffed. Off duty gun presentation is a back against the wall, last desperate act, kind of thing.

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I can’t understand why this topic is debated so often.
If you don’t want to carry, fine. that is your business. And, if you should be unarmed somewhere when the boogey man decides to show himself in a violent way, don’t worry I, or someone just like me (read: ARMED) will protect you.

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Politically Correct? No.

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A simple rule we cops hold to heart, better be tried by twelve then carried by six, I’ve always carried in national parks, Walt Disney, any where that there’s no metal detector!

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Well, I recently read the Dept. of Interior’s ruling that non-sworn CCW is permitted in National Parks effective 01-09-2009. There was a statement that firearms could not be discharged in the park, though.

That seems a bit illogical, unless I’m missing something.

What exactly are our (LEO’s) limitations on carrying off-duty in a National Park? I’m not a hunter, but I would prefer to have it with me while I’m hiking and taking pictures (the only “shooting” that I do). Crazies/criminals travel and may just take their families (and criminal tendancies) to the parks. Plus, something is better than nothing if I’m attacked by a bear and my bear spray doesn’t work (granted, a .40 will probably just irritate him).

Without reading the previous replies two things come to mind. One, you can carry a concealed handgun in this state, however, you can’t just walk out into the street and discharge the weapon, i.e. obviously just because you can carry your pistol in national parks doesn’t mean you can fire it at will. Two, the guys that would be enforcing this aren’t dopey, tree hugging guys in big hats out chasing Yogi. They’re gun toting federal officers who also like to carry a weapon when they’re off-duty. I believe NPS officers have the highest assault rate amoung LEOs in the U.S.

In general, most officers don’t care if other officers or lawful civilians carry concealed weapons. I work with a guy initially trained as an NPS officer, and he wouldn’t care. If you walked into Walmart with your pistol and just began firing it randomly I can think of a host of charges you could potentially be charged with, however, if you pulled your weapon and shot someone trying to kill you then you wouldn’t get charged with anything once found to be acting in self-defense.

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Off-Duty Carry – National Parks – Fed LEO (and non-fed)

Well, I recently read the Dept. of Interior’s ruling that non-sworn CCW is permitted in National Parks effective 01-09-2009. There was a statement that firearms could not be discharged in the park, though.

That seems a bit illogical, unless I’m missing something.

What exactly are our (LEO’s) limitations on carrying off-duty in a National Park? I’m not a hunter, but I would prefer to have it with me while I’m hiking and taking pictures (the only “shooting” that I do). Crazies/criminals travel and may just take their families (and criminal tendancies) to the parks. Plus, something is better than nothing if I’m attacked by a bear and my bear spray doesn’t work (granted, a .40 will probably just irritate him).

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A National Park is EXCLUSIVE Federal Property just like a Military Base. So the answer is, until that change NO you may not.

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Keep it concealed, and don’t worry about it. Why does this keep coming up. If you ever find yourself needing a gun, I doubt very much if you’ll be too concerned over whether or not the overseers of the patch of ground that you are standing on want you to have one or not.

No one ever got in trouble for carrying a gun that no one knew that they were carrying *BUT* many a bad guy have met their demise from a gun carried by a good guy, that no one knew that he/she was carrying!

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Politically Correct? No.

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There was a statement that firearms could not be discharged in the park, though.

That seems a bit illogical, unless I’m missing something.

I think you are missing the “common sense” aspect of the rule. They don’t want people setting up targets and going at it, plinking, or hunting in the park. Hence the “no shooting” rule. Many cities have “no shooting” in public street ordinances and such, if your life was in danger would you hesitate due to the ordinance?

You are reading too much into it.

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You mean you would not see Yosemite, the Grand Canyon, or Yellowstone because you are so insecure that you need to carry at all times?

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Pfft. I’d carry anyway. If I don’t need it no one will know, and if I do need it odds are it will be under circumstances no one will care.

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You mean you would not see Yosemite, the Grand Canyon, or Yellowstone because you are so insecure that you need to carry at all times?

REALLY.
I’ve seen plenty of national parks, and *gasp* I was carrying! The world did not end. No bells and whistles went off. The wildlife survived, and the secret gun detectors that the park service has hidden in the pine trees didn’t catch it.

Are you really on a police forum making a statement that you feel that cops carry off duty because thay are “insecure?” I guess that you should enlighten us as to what percentage of the time we should be carrying, and still be secure in our manhoods. As per state, and federal statutes, I carry. And like the criminals, I do not let some terrified sheep/suit who is locked in an office, and would disarm all cops if he/she could tell me when, and where I carry. It’s concealed, and my business. If I pull it out there will be plenty of people who are happy that I did. I’ve said it before, I’ll say it again. Show me that place where criminals can’t go with their guns, and I’ll gladly leave mine at home! FYI bars/clubs, major concerts, NFL/NHL/MLB games, casino floors, and yes NATIONAL PARKS ain’t that place!! Been to all of the above with a concealed gun, and spare mag, without so much as a second thought or second glance.

Firearms in National Parks: Can You Concealed Carry?

As temps grow warmer you might be tempted to head outdoors and enjoy the beauty of national parks, but can your guns go too? Come find out.

With warm weather on the horizon, many gun owners will be turning to the outdoors for a little getaway or adventure.

And the U.S. offers plenty of beautiful lands to enjoy, including some impressive hikes and camping spots at national parks.

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John enjoying some outdoor time.

But with a number of national parks throughout the country and varying gun laws, it can be confusing when it comes to concealed carry in your favorite national park.

Is it legal? Can you do it without going to jail?

Fortunately, we’ve got you covered!

We’re going to run you through what laws are on the books regarding carry in national parks, what things you need to consider before packing, and any details that might throw a wrench in your weekend plans.

Armed with our guide here, you’ll be better informed than the average bear.

Yogi Bear

He can carry…can you? Keep reading to find out.

Disclaimer: While the information provided here is legal in nature, it is not to be construed as legal advice and is for educational and entertainment purposes only.

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Can I Carry in a National Park?

The short answer…yes.

Whether you’re camping in the wilderness of Yellowstone or just taking a stroll through the Gateway Arch, as long as you are legally allowed to possess a firearm in the state where the national park is located, you are allowed to carry the firearm.

But don’t close this page just yet. Like with everything in life, the devil is in the details.

Things to Consider

It’s important to keep in mind that many national parks span across multiple states.

While your possession of a firearm may be perfectly legal and permitted in one part of the park, another portion sitting in a different state might have different firearms laws.

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And those laws might make it illegal for you to carry a gun.

Many states have reciprocity when it comes to concealed carry permits, recognizing CCW licenses of other states.

For example, if you have a CCW permit from Arizona, carrying your gun all throughout Yellowstone is permitted — whether you are in Wyoming, Montana, or Idaho.

Reciprocity is a good thing! Depending on your CCW permit, it means you can carry in multiple states!

All three of those states recognize an Arizona CCW permit, so you’re good.

However, this would not be the case if you took that same gun and your Arizona CCW permit to Yosemite in California. The Golden State does not recognize an Arizona CCW permit, so you would be in some hot water.

A visit to Yosemite would require you to leave the gun at home.

California has some…unique laws.

(Want to read more on California laws: Check our guide here.)

Fortunately, there are plenty of other national parks in the country. So, it’s not a huge loss if you need to forgo that park.

In short, it’s worth looking into the national park, understanding what states it spans, and whether your CCW permit is recognized there before you arrive locked and loaded.

What About Buildings in National Parks?

All federal and state laws are still in effect, despite you being within a national park. What that means is the federal law that prohibits possession of firearms in federal facilities still applies.

So, you can carry your firearm in the actual park itself, as long as the state laws allow it, but you cannot bring the gun into the ranger station, visitor center, or any other federal building — even with a recognized CCW permit.

Federal Building Guns Warning

Thanks a lot, Ranger Smith.

Need to head inside? The gun will need to be securely stowed in the car, or you’ll need to send a friend or family member inside instead.

Using a Firearm in a National Park

The most important thing to keep in mind when carrying your firearm in a national park…

You can’t use it for target practice. Like at all. Target practice is prohibited.

And unless you have a hunting permit, you can’t use your gun for hunting purposes inside the national park.

Lead Free Ammo Hunting

You’ll need a hunting permit before you can legally hunt within a national park.

Of course, if you absolutely need to use your gun in a self-defense situation, then that’s a different story.

But that’s a story you’ll probably be explaining to the jury during your trial afterward.

So, to recap, don’t head to the park for plinking. Keep that to your local range.

Conclusion

The next time you plan a trip to a national park with the family, be sure to do a quick check of the gun laws of the state where the park is located. With any luck, it’ll be a state where your CCW permit is recognized.

Avoid national parks in states without reciprocity and/or leave your gun at home if you plan on visiting. And remember, national park buildings count as federal buildings, so guns are prohibited.

With a little research, you can safely and securely enjoy some outdoor adventures!

Have you ever carried in a national park? What’s your favorite park to visit? Let us know in the comments below. For more gun-related laws and regulations, check out our breakdown of Concealed Carry Laws.

Source https://forum.officer.com/forum/officers-and-law-enforcement-professionals-only/the-squad-room/111879-off-duty-carry-national-parks-fed-leo-and-non-fed/page3

Source https://forum.officer.com/forum/officers-and-law-enforcement-professionals-only/the-squad-room/111879-off-duty-carry-national-parks-fed-leo-and-non-fed

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