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Thread: What’s more dangerous – Skydiving or Motorcycling?

Hello people. I did my first solo skydive today. The one where you’re attached to the instructor is called “tandem”.

I went on Saturday morning and did a 4 hour course, but could not jump because most of the day was lost because of high winds. There were 14 girls in my class and 7 guys. Most of the girls were in a group from college. They all jumped yesterday and no one chickened out.

I had to go back today and I jumped from 4,000 ft. Rather than being scared I was mainly uncomfortable because there were 5 of us cramped into a tiny plane. That plane was like a 50 old year old junkmobile. When the instructor told me to jump I was glad to get the hell out of that plane.

Once out, it feels like you’re stopped as there’s no sensation of falling. You just follow the instruction that they give you to turn this way or that till you land gently.

My understanding is that skydiving is extremely safe compared to riding a motorcycle with a negligible accident rate compared to the hundreds who die or get injured riding motorcycles. I would urge every one of you to try it.

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wanted to go skydiving maybe i’ll give it a try this year.

Re: What’s more dangerous – Skydiving or Motorcycling?

I guess it’s a game of chance either way. There’s a chance your chute won’t open or there’s a chance that someone will pull a u-turn in front of you.

Mind you, your chances of surviving a skydiving outing would dramatically increase if you actually wore a parachute before jumping out of the plane.

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I always thought skydiving would be so much more expensive?

$258 is actually not bad at all. I’ve been wanting to try it for a long time now, time to start saving up I guess.

Does the price above include the lesson, chute, and the lift?

please email me directly, I don’t check the forums anymore. Thanks!

Re: What’s more dangerous – Skydiving or Motorcycling?

Motorcycling is by far more dangerous. Skydiving may look more dangerous but the only danger is in the landing. There really isn’t any physical risk between jumping out of the plane and just before you hit the ground. There really is only one outcome, you land alive and uninjured. Sure there are are cases of failed chutes but that’s extremely rare. When you ride a motorcycle you are at constant risk of physical danger from other factors beyond your control.

“I got a new spleen from a guy who liked to ride motorcycles”. Fry, Futurama

Re: What’s more dangerous – Skydiving or Motorcycling?

A cheaper & safer high.

Re: What’s more dangerous – Skydiving or Motorcycling?

Actually you’re wearing TWO parachutes. The first one deploys automatically when you jump. If that one fails then you can pull the cord to deploy the second one. If you’ve passed out or panic the ground control can make the second chute deploy automatically via remote control.

There’s only a 1:45,000,000 chance that both chutes would fail.

When you land most people land on their feet although beginners may roll over as I did.

Re: What’s more dangerous – Skydiving or Motorcycling?

Originally Posted by dy9213

Yeah, the $258 included everything, including taxes. It also includes $17 to go to 4,000 feet instead of 3,000 ft. That extra 1000 feet is good as it doesn’t take more than 4-5 minutes to come down.

After the first dive it takes only around $75-100 to dive again. As you get more dives under your belt you can start going to higher altitudes and also start free falls, which is when you float in the air before you deploy the chute.

After 15 dives you get “Solo Certified” meaning that you don’t need an instructor anymore. I plan to do about 8 this year if I can.

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Congratulations,my first freefall was in the early 70’s.I remember it very well.Jumping is very addictive and can get very expensive depending on how many jumps per weekend and where you travel to make them.As far as biking being more dangerous,if you make a boo boo on the bike,you can get away with a rashed up set of leathers and bike.Maybe a badly broken body.But bones heal.I have seen two freefall fatalities.It isn’t pretty.Practice your emergency procedures until you can do them in your sleep,and then practice some more.Enjoy the rush!

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Re: What’s more dangerous – Skydiving or Motorcycling?

You also take into account terminal velocity.

If I can recall my jump math the average diver falls at a rate of 195 km/h. Keep in mind this is a free fall where you are not attempting to accumulate speed. A motorcycle racer can reach speeds well beyond this so when they hit the ground . its a bigger splatter.

Of course if you’re a moron who doesn’t deploy his chute and tucks in your arms which we call freeflying you get around 325 km/h which is a pretty freaking fast and yup – you’re going to splat good!

I stand by motorcycling is more dangerous then jumping.

We also had to do research about chances of surviving if you were to do a free fall. Everything on earth fall at a rate of 9.81 m/s. Take into account the weight of the person falling which creates drag which then equals out to the persons falling speed. Like I said . about 195 km/h. It doesn’t matter if you fall from 10 000m or 5 000m . you will hit the ground with the same force so long as the laws of terminal velocity are met.

To compare that now to a bike. you go fast . really fast . faster then free falling . be prepared to leave a mess for some one to pick up regardless.

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Are Motorcycles Dangerous? A Comparison Guide You’ll Want To See

The hobby of riding a motorcycle is seen to be a leisurely, pleasant experience according to a large population. Some view it as completely dangerous and should be avoided at all costs. There will be differences in opinion the more people you talk to about it.

The biggest debate is whether or not motorcycles are actually dangerous. You hear of horror stories involving motorcycles which in turn makes most people believe that they are, in fact, dangerous vehicles.

Are motorcycles dangerous? The answer to whether or not motorcycles are dangerous depends a lot on the rider and their driving abilities. The word dangerous means it is likely to cause harm or injury. In this case, motorcycles can be considered dangerous. On the flip side, any other vehicle can be considered dangerous too as they also holds risks.

Throughout this article, you’ll be able to see the reasons why a motorcycle can be dangerous and the statistics that go along with it. You’ll also be able to read how to decrease risks while riding with numbers and statistics that may indicate that motorcycles might not be as dangerous as you think. This article isn’t here to convince you whether or not motorcycles are dangerous, rather this is a helpful guide to show you the points and help you decide for yourself.

Danger Risk: Lack of Protection

It’s important to understand that a motorcycle itself is not dangerous. It’s the possibilities of what can happen while you’re riding that increases a rider’s risk.

Compared to other vehicles, motorcycles have a lot less protection against anything they could collide with. And this doesn’t just mean roll bars, it also includes the lack of seat belts as well as airbags. However, motorcycle manufacturers are working on developing technology to somehow implement airbags on motorcycles.

Because there is a lack of protection, the motorcycle rider is more susceptible to colliding with the hard objects around them such as the road, car, tree, etc. It’s these collisions that create the injury and is what can cause a motorcycle to be more dangerous.

Danger Risk: Other Drivers

Perhaps the biggest danger outside of the motorcycle itself that puts a motorcyclist at risk is the other drivers around them. Not everyone rides a motorcycle and therefore a good chunk of the driving population are completely unaware of them because they don’t really know what to look for. This is probably something they could improve on in driver’s education in school.

In fact, other motorists are so unaware of motorcycles that out of all motorcycle accidents and crashes, other vehicles are at fault 40% of the time. And about half of all accidents involving a motorcycle and another vehicle are done by another vehicle making a left hand turn and intercepting with the motorcycle somehow.

Most of these types of accidents happen in intersections. This is likely due to the fact that since motorcycles are smaller, vehicle drivers don’t see them as clearly as they can for other cars. That’s why it’s important for the motorcyclist to be especially aware when approaching a cross roads like this.

Danger Risk: 2 Wheels Instead Of 4

It doesn’t take a rocket scientist to figure out the difference in physics between a car that has four wheels and a motorcycle that has two wheels. One possible big reasons a lot of people end up getting a motorcycle in the first place is because it only has two wheels. Those two wheels sometimes enable motorcyclists to special rules such as lane splitting (though it’s not legal everywhere).

A car with four wheels will have more traction on the road and therefore have more control. Only having two wheels on the road means less traction which also means you could possibly lose control a little easier.

Motorcycles are also susceptible to hydroplaning, fishtailing, and sliding on ice, sand, or gravel. But then again so are most other vehicles. A skilled motorcyclist will be able to maneuver through these obstacles with enough practice.

Danger Risk: Age

Age has a large impact on the statistics of vehicle crashes altogether. And that isn’t necessarily pointed just directly towards the young people though they are a contributing factor as to why motorcycles can be dangerous.

In 2008, there were about 96,000 motorcycle accidents in the United States. Of those 96,000 accidents, about 8,000 of them were done by teenagers (ages 15-20). Studies have shown that teenagers believe that they are a lot better driver than they actually are and therefore get into a state of complacency. You mix a young teenager with complacency on a motorcycle and your chances of an accident increase.

On the flip side, older generations are also accounted for in motorcycle accidents. They also become victims of complacency because they have “ridden for 20 years without an accident” and they sometimes get into a mindset of invincibility. That relaxed state of mind is what can make a motorcycle dangerous. So in this sense, the danger comes from the rider.

Danger Risk: Driving Skills

Not just anyone can get on a motorcycle and take it for a spin around the neighborhood. It takes training and skill to operate such a vehicle which is why individuals are required to get a separate license in order to ride a motorcycle.

Staying alert and being a defensive driver is especially important while riding a motorcycle because the consequences are worse. These extra skills acquired need to be implemented every second you’re on that bike. A lot of motorcycle accidents that happen could have been prevented by the rider.

Let’s take a specific example. According to the NHTSA, “In 2013, there were 4,399 motorcycle riders killed in motor vehicle traffic crashes. Of those, 1,232 (28%) were alcohol-impaired (BAC of .08 or higher). In addition, there were 305 (7%) fatally injured motorcycle riders who had lower alcohol levels (BACs of .01 to .07 g/dL).”

The NHTSA also goes on to say that of all fatal crashes that happened in 2013 due to alcohol impairment, motorcyclists made up 27% of those fatalities which was the highest percentage out of all other types of vehicles (cars being 23%). This indicates that a large chunk of motorcycle fatalities could have been prevented had these motorcyclists not driven drunk or impaired.

In addition, the NHTSA also goes on to describe some further interesting statistics. Of all types of vehicles involved in fatal crashes, motorcyclists had the highest percentage of speeding convictions as well as previous license suspensions or revocations. In other words, motorcyclists involved in fatal accidents were more likely to have some sort negative previous driving record compared to other vehicle drivers.

Danger Risk: Lack Of Maintenance

Like any other motorized vehicle, motorcycles require their fair share of maintenance and check-ups. Motorcycles can break down off the side of the road leaving the rider frustrated, but there are a few basic components of motorcycle maintenance that can lead to catastrophic consequences if they’re left unattended to.

Running out of gas or having some exhaust backfire doesn’t necessarily mean you’ll get bucked off the motorcycle during the middle of a ride. But if your chain breaks or your engine seizes during a ride, you could find yourself in a dangerous situation (because you can get thrown of the motorcycle if it’s bad enough). See my article here for more information about what happens when a motorcycle chain breaks.

That’s why motorcycle maintenance is so important and it is completely up to the rider to keep up with it. Any accident or injury that happens because the motorcycle malfunctions due to lack of maintenance is pretty much all on the owner and could have been completely preventable.

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How To Make Riding Safer: Wearing The Right Gear

Now that we’ve covered that biggest reasons a motorcycle can be considered dangerous, let’s cover grounds as to how riders can decrease their chances and risks of harm while out for a ride.

The biggest and most obvious way to make a ride on a motorcycle safe is by wearing the right gear. Motorcyclists should always wear protective gloves, boots, pants, jacket, and most importantly wear a helmet. While wearing the right jacket doesn’t necessarily prevent spinal injury, protective gear can greatly decrease your chances of major skin burns and lacerations.

Wearing a helmet while riding could certainly mean a matter of life or death. As it was mentioned before, motorcycles provide much less protection compared to other vehicles, so wearing a helmet is vital. The NHTSA estimates that helmets saved the lives of 1,630 people in 2013 in the U.S. Had all those who were involved in fatal motorcycle accidents been wearing a helmet, an estimated 715 more lives could have been saved.

All motorcycle helmets that are sold in the United States require to meet safety standards that are monitored by laws and organizations. Though a helmet may not save a life 100% of the time, it greatly increases the chances of survival.

How To Make Riding Safer: Take A Riding Safety Class

In order to get a motorcycle license in most places, you’ll need to obtain your learner’s permit, practice riding, take a written and riding test, and voila. You have a motorcycle license.

While this is a good way to ensure that people have the appropriate skills to ride a motorcycle on city roads, most places do not require riders to take a riding safety class. This is usually an optional thing to help riders feel more comfortable on the road and not everyone takes a course like this.

The California Motorcyclist Safety Program reported that taking a safety riding course while you’re learning how to ride a motorcycle can decrease your chances of a fatal accident by almost 61%. That is statistically significant and it should be considered by every rider to take a safety course whether they’re learning how to ride or have already been riding for years.

How To Make Riding Safer: Regular Maintenance

As it was mentioned earlier, routine maintenance on a motorcycle is not only vital to the health of the motorcycle itself, but it’s also vital for your safety. Bigger mechanical problems can potentially be dangerous.

Issues with the chain, tires, and engine can put a rider at the biggest risk of injury. So while they can be annoying, getting regular oil changes are also important for your safety. Lack of oil or old oil inside the engine risks the pistons to seize into place. If an engine seizes during a ride, you could potential be abruptly stopped and/or thrown off the bike. The oil on a motorcycle should be changed every 4,000-5,000 miles or every six months, whichever comes first.

Chain maintenance is also vital. In most cases when a chain breaks, it usually just means your motorcycle doesn’t have power any more. But if it gets jammed, that also means your motorcycle could come to an abrupt stop and throw you off the bike. You should lube the motorcycle chain and check the tension of it every 4,000 miles or every six months, which ever comes first.

Tires are one of the most important parts of a motorcycle yet they seem to be the most neglected. It can be extremely dangerous if a motorcycle tire blows while you’re riding it and usually blows are completely preventable. See my other article here to learn more about how often you should get your motorcycle serviced.

These are all dangers that can happen on a motorcycle, but they’re also completely preventable with a little scheduling and paying attention on the owner’s part.

How To Make Riding Safer: Being A Defensive Rider

Being a defensive rider while owning a motorcycle is one of those obvious points that goes without saying. But people say they try to do it but don’t actually abide by it.

The risk of injury on a motorcycle is higher, so that’s why you need to be completely aware of your surroundings. As it was mentioned earlier, a large part of motorcycle accidents are caused by other vehicles and their lack of paying attention. You have to assume you’re making up for the attention they’re not giving.

First and foremost, assume that every driver around you on the road has no idea you are there. Don’t assume that because you have loud exhaust or that you flashed your lights at them they know you’re in their blind spot. Assuming no one knows you’re there will help you become a much better defensive driver and therefore keep you a little safer while riding.

Also make sure that you keep a safe distance between cars. Motorcyclists assume they can brake faster than cars can, but that’s not necessarily true. A lot of that depends on your motorcycle and the car that’s slamming on their brakes in front of you.

Other Activities That Are More Dangerous Than Riding A Motorcycle

According to the Insurance Information Institute, in 2007 there were 5,174 motorcycle related fatalities in the U.S. In comparison with the same year, there were 22,856 fatal crashes that involved passenger cars. So while riding a motorcycle does hold it dangers, so do other activities. Let’s look at some other statistics:

  • According to the CDC, 480,000 deaths per year in the U.S. are caused by smoking. On that same note, 41,000 deaths result from second-hand smoke.
  • There’s an estimated 1,700 injuries per year in the U.S. because of vending machines.
  • There are about 13,000 people per year in the U.S. who die because of falls.
  • Just under 13,000 people die per year in the U.S. from accidental poisoning.
  • About 598,000 people die per year from obesity related heart disease in the U.S.

So while riding a motorcycle does hold it’s risks and dangers, so do plenty of other common activities performed throughout the U.S. each day (and a lot of them are significantly more likely to happen than being involved in a fatal motorcycle accident).

Conclusion

Motorcycles do have the potential of being dangerous while being used. Any life lost while riding a motorcycle is one life too many. But as you can see throughout this article, a lot of motorcycle injuries are preventable by the rider.

Riding a motorcycle is much different than riding in a car, so anyone who desires to ride a motorcycle needs to understand their responsibilities; if they do so, they can dramatically decrease their chances of harm. Click here to see my pros and cons list of riding a motorcycle.

However, not every motorcycle injury or death is the rider’s fault. There are plenty of circumstances where the motorcycle rider had zero part in the accident, but they still happen. At the same time, accidents happen no matter where you go or where you’re at. The choice is up to you whether riding that motorcycle is really that dangerous or not.

What is More Dangerous – Bungee Jumping vs Skydiving? A Simple Guide.

Bungee Jumping vs Skydiving | Which is More Dangerous?

When it comes to adventure sports, bungee jumping and skydiving are definitely the two most considered activities by travellers and thrill-seekers.

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However, one of the most critical factors impacting their decision is which of the two is more dangerous.

In this article, I’ll be comparing bungee jumping vs skydiving and exploring the fatality rates of both. That way you make the decision of which of these adventure sports you’d like to try as your next adventure,

Is Bungee Jumping Dangerous?

When considering bungee jumping for the first time, one of the biggest questions beginners ask is:

The tricky thing about this is that friends, family and relatives will very quickly chime in with their opinions and recommendations.

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Some adamantly stating how crazy you are to even THINK about doing it, and how they know someone, who knows someone, who had a bad experience.

Yet, in many cases, they’ve never actually tried it themselves.

Unlike those people, I have actually done bungee jumping before, and not just once but 4 times! I have done 3 bungee jumps in New Zealand and 1 bungee jump in South Africa.

Here’s some footage from my experience bungee jumping in New Zealand:

Despite experiencing it for myself, I can of course, understand why people view bungee jumping as dangerous.

Sure, having your feet tied together by an elastic rope and diving head first towards the ground is not exactly risk-free. But when we look at the statistics, we do see a different story.

Given the state of modern technology and the strictness of protocol these days, the fatalities and injuries attributed to bungee jumping are less than often expected.

In case you’re not convinced, check out the stats that I was able to gather below.

They may help to shift your beliefs.

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The Fatality Statistics of Bungee Jumping:

After hours of research, I realised that the frequency of bungee jumping deaths is actually pretty low.

If it’s your first time bungee jumping, you’d be VERY unlucky to have something go wrong during your jump.

According to Best Health Degrees , the estimated death ratio is 1 to 500,000 jumps.

To put that in context…

Here’s how bungee jumping compares to some other popular adventure sports, from most dangerous to least dangerous.

  • Hang Gliding: 1 in 560
  • Canoeing: 1 in 10,000
  • Mountain Hiking: 1 in 15,700
  • Bicycling: 1 in 140,845
  • Bungee Jumping: 1 in 500,000

As you can see, the chance of you dying bungee jumping is miniscule compared to the number of successful jumps that are done every day!

You’re also more likely to have an accident canoeing than bungee jumping, which I’m sure many of you have already tried before.

If you’d like to give bungee jumping a go, there are many locations all over the world where you try it.

Here are some other great options to check out:

Now let’s turn our attention to skydiving.

Is Skydiving Dangerous?

Similar to bungee jumping, skydiving is another adventure sport that gets a bad rep for being high risk. It too involves plunging head first towards the ground.

And to make things even more frightening…

Instead of having a rope tied to your ankles, you wear a harness hoping to death that your parachute opens on cue.

And the cherry on top, you jump from 12,000-15,000 feet above the ground rather than from 100-200m.

Here’s some footage from my experience skydiving in Australia:

Sure, when I frame it like this sounds freaking terrifying. However, technology has advanced a ton over the last 20-30 years and the instructors you tandem dive with are very experienced at what they do.

You must also keep in mind that most adventure companies, who specialise in skydiving, have very strict safety procedures and protocols that they follow.

Their mission is to ensure that you have a very safe and fun experience. Otherwise, customers would never go back and they’d never make any money.

Similar to bungee jumping, let’s take a look at some statistics below.

The Fatality Statistics of Skydiving:

As we did earlier, let’s now compare skydiving to bungee jumping, in terms of fatality statistics.

Using the same source mentioned above, skydiving is said to have a fatality rate of 1 death per 101,083 jumps.

That’s less than 1 death for every 100,000 jumps!

This means that, again, you would have to be pretty unlucky to die when skydiving.

Let’s now add that into the list of other sports and see where it sits.

  • Hang Gliding: 1 in 560
  • Canoeing: 1 in 10,000
  • Mountain Hiking: 1 in 15,700
  • Skydiving: 1 in 101,083
  • Bicycling: 1 in 140,845
  • Bungee Jumping: 1 in 500,000
  • Skiing: 1 in 1,4000,000
  • Snowboarding: 1 in 2,200,000

This gives you a clear indication of where the two sit in terms of injury and risk. However, I’d like to add one more thing into the mix to blow your little cotton socks off.

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Like me, you probably drive a car right?

Yep, well have I got some news for you.

I did some research into car death fatalities and associated statistics.

Did you know? According to Budget Direct, in 2020 the global average of road fatalities from car accidents is 18.2 deaths per 100,000 people.

Here’s a visual graph showing the breakdown of deaths per 100,000 people, within a select number of countries:

Fatality Statistics for Driving vs. Bungee jumping and Skydiving

So based off the above stats, you’re:

  • 18 times more likely to die driving to work compared to skydiving and
  • 91 times more likely to die from driving when compared to bungee jumping

Crikey, I don’t think I’ll ever drive again!

BUT if you do have the courage to drive everyday of the week (now knowing the stats), I’d suggest you overcome your fear of bungee jumping or skydiving.

Instead, just GO DO IT!

If you’d like to give skydiving a go, there are many locations all over the world where you can try it.

Here are some great examples to check out:

In Conclusion –

What is More Dangerous – Skydiving or Bungee Jumping?

In conclusion, the fatality statistics associated with bungee jumping vs skydiving reveal that skydiving is in fact more dangerous than bungee jumping with nearly a 5x greater chance of dying (Skydiving = 1 death per 101,083 jumps | Bungee Jumping = 1 death per 500,000 jumps).

However, as highlighted above, the risks of dying whilst doing either of these adventure sports is extremely low, with less than 1 death per 100,000 successful jumps.

This compares to 18.2 deaths per 100,000 people as a result of a car accident.

I hope that this article has helped to put the risks of these two adventure sports into perspective, and give you the confidence to try these incredible adventure sports for yourself.

Try not to let the opinions of others prevent you from ticking something amazing off your bucket list.

If you’d like to read more about bungee jumping or skydiving you can check out some of our other articles below:

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You can also watch more videos of my experiences bungy jumping, skydiving and doing other adventures on our Youtube Channel.

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